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How to get the right referrals from clients and COIs, with Molly Bennard of Focus Financial
Molly Bennard
President, International Operations, Focus Financial Partners
Jon Wainman
Advisor Practice Management Consultant
Max McQuiston
Advisor Practice Management Consultant

“If you’re not growing, you’re dying,” says Molly Bennard, president of international operations at Focus Financial, a firm with over $400 billion in assets under advisement (as of December 2024).


That’s because outflows outpace asset growth from existing clients. Firms have an average outflow of 4.3% of AUM (due to loss of clients or withdrawals by existing clients) and inflow of 3.3% from existing clients, according to Fidelity’s 2023 RIA Benchmarking Study. Without new clients, practices shrink by 1% of AUM per year on average.


And referrals remain the top way advisors seek new clients by a wide margin. Referrals accounted for 87% of all new business in our 2023 Pathways to Growth: Advisor Benchmark Study of more than 1,500 advisors. But how do you improve your referral strategy’s success rate? How do you get more referrals from clients and COIs (centers of influence)?


In a recent PracticeLab webinar, which is also available as a podcast, Bennard joined Capital Group practice management consultants Max McQuiston and Jon Wainman to offer some answers. It comes down to being clear about your goals and expectations, transparent with both clients and COIs and candid about what’s working (and what’s not).


Be candid about what success looks like (and doesn’t) 


If advisors want their referral efforts to succeed, they need to be clear about what success looks like. That means creating a written plan with clearly defined key performance indicators (KPIs). “Many firms don't have a strategic plan with goals,” Bennard observes. “And the truth is, if you don't have that in place, ultimately there will be no roadmap and no budget to make the growth happen.”


Schwab's 2024 RIA Benchmarking Study reveals that advisors with defined COI referral plans generated over four times as many assets as those without one. Firms with written marketing plans gained 67% more clients than those without.


“If you don't measure, quite frankly, your goal never existed,” Bennard says. She recommends tracking metrics including:

  1. Leads by source (how many referrals come from whom)
  2. Number of referrals received
  3. Conversion rate (how many referrals become clients)
  4. Retention rate
  5. New assets acquired by referral

In addition to a defined plan, Bennard says there are three other things advisors should have in place before they start trying to get referrals:

  1. A refined value proposition articulating your “why”
  2. A clearly defined target market or niche
  3. A comprehensive marketing plan and budget

Get your clients’ honest take 


Satisfied clients make 2.5 times the number of referrals on average, according to Fidelity’s 2023 report, “Improving the Planning Experience.” You could take that to mean you should strive to satisfy every client, which is always important. You could also take it to mean you’ll always have some clients who are happier than others and you should identify the ones who are most likely to refer you.


Effective client segmentation goes beyond assets under management. “Many advisors forget to segment their clients based on their willingness to advocate and provide referrals,” explains Bennard. She suggests categorizing clients as neutral, supporters or advocates.


Segment your book by advocacy level

The image is a horizontal bar chart illustrating different levels of client advocacy. The chart is divided into three sections from bottom to top: • The bottom section is labeled "Neutral" and described as "Unlikely to refer/indifferent satisfaction," colored in light gray. • The middle section is labeled "Supporters" and described as "Willing to refer when asked/satisfied," colored in medium blue. • The top section is labeled "Advocates" and described as "Proactively refer/highly satisfied," colored in dark blue. An upward arrow on the left side of the chart indicates increasing levels of client advocacy from bottom to top.

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This requires getting a realistic view on how your clients feel about you and the service you provide to them. You can make it part of your client review process, conduct surveys, have other team members ask on your behalf or form a client advisory board.


Advisory boards are especially good for getting your clients’ candid views, according to Wainman. “You can have unbiased feedback. What are some things that maybe I should be thinking about and incorporating into my business?”


When do you approach clients about referrals? McQuiston suggests making it part of your process to have the conversation at seven points, from onboarding and reviews to life milestones and after navigating financial challenges.


Key moments for asking clients about referrals

The image is a diagram titled "Choose when to approach clients about referrals." It shows a timeline with seven key points, each representing an optimal time to approach clients for referrals. The points are: 1. Initial onboarding and planning 2. First positive outcome from financial plan 3. Annual review 4. Life milestones – marriage, birth of a child/grandchild, buying a home, career change 5. Navigating financial challenges – market downturns, unexpected expenses or death of a relative 6. Client appreciation events 7. Reaching long-term financial goals – funding their children's education, buying a second home, achieving retirement readiness or retiring

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It’s at these points that clients have the clearest, freshest view on how much value you add for them. “When a client says thank you, don't just say you're welcome,” McQuiston advises. Use it as an opportunity to ask the client for an introduction to someone who would benefit from your services.


Better yet, ask for introductions to specific people you’ve identified ahead of time. You can use LinkedIn to find people in your client’s network with job titles, employers or other demographic data that match your niche. Be candid with your client about why you think those people would especially benefit from your services. If you have LinkedIn Sales Navigator, you can also use a prebuilt set of filters and searches to find those people.


Note the language shift: ask for introductions, not referrals. “Twenty percent of people are comfortable making a referral. Eighty percent are comfortable making an introduction,” McQuiston points out. Being transparent about why you're seeking introductions to specific individuals makes the process more comfortable for both parties.


Cultivating transparent COI relationships 


Many advisors have had the unpleasant experience of having one-sided relationships with COIs. You refer plenty of people to them; you don’t get any referrals in return. On the other hand, some advisors are creating unpleasant experiences for other people by taking referrals from them but never reciprocating in any way.


Apply the goal-setting mentality to your COI partnerships. Bennard says it’s critically important for advisors to set mutual goals with COIs. These goals can mirror those you’re setting for your own practice, such as new assets and client retention. They can also include referrals sent in both directions and joint events hosted.


Set mutual goals with COIs

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There are many different types of COI relationships you can have and different goals you can set with a given COI. You might commit to sharing key information with each other about your respective industries or sharing each other’s content. The key is to have a candid conversation about what those mutual goals are upfront.


Bennard also recommends scheduling regular, structured meetings to review your partnership's progress against those goals. And if you can’t get on the same page, it’s important to be honest about that. “Some COI relationships don't work or are not effective, given your goals may not be mutual,” she says. “It’s important to know when to quit.”


This requires a level of candor with COIs that is uncommon among advisors. But it’s critically important to have, if you want both parties to be satisfied with the partnership. Reciprocity is the key. “Think of them as strategic partners, not just centers of influence,” McQuiston says. “It's a two-way street.”


Wainman suggests setting yourself up for success by identifying the right COIs, and not just the ones that advisors commonly think of, like accountants and attorneys. “Think about what other professional providers may intersect with your target clients,” he says. For affluent clients, this might include trust officers, exclusive event planners, luxury car and jet brokers, divorce attorneys and marriage therapists, travel agents and architects. For business owners or larger businesses, consider Chambers of Commerce, commercial real estate brokers, HR consultants, recruiters, management consultants and insurance brokers.


Whether cultivating referrals from clients or COIs, transparency forms the foundation of success. Be transparent with yourself about your goals and metrics. Be transparent with clients about your value and their satisfaction. Be transparent with COIs about expectations and results.


Embracing transparency throughout your referral strategy can help you create the organic growth needed not just to replace inevitable outflows, but to build a thriving practice for years to come.



Molly Bennard is responsible for the overall formulation and execution of Focus’s international strategy and oversees the day-to-day operations of its international businesses. In this role, Molly passionately works alongside local management and advisors to drive transformative growth, deliver better client solutions and outcomes, foster innovation and build and leverage shared services to generate scale and efficiency. Molly brings deep expertise and experience within the wealth management space, having most recently served as Chief Executive Officer of Connectus Wealth Advisers, a global wealth management organization. Prior to Connectus, Molly was a Managing Director at Focus, responsible for leading business development and acquisition activities within the US and Australia. She also previously was the Head of the Strategic Initiatives Group of AXA US (The Equitable), where she led corporate strategy and business development initiatives to drive profitable growth and operating performance. Molly also previously worked within Morgan Stanley’s Investment Banking Division and began her career at PricewaterhouseCoopers. Molly is a CPA and CFA Charterholder. She holds an MBA from Columbia Business School and a BS in Economics from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.

Jon Wainman is an advisor practice management consultant at Capital Group. He coaches and provides practice management consulting insights to top financial professionals. He has 22 years of investment industry experience helping financial professionals grow their retirement plan and practices and has been with Capital Group for 13 years. Earlier in his career at Capital, he was a senior sales capabilities manager and a retirement plan counselor, responsible for relationship management and sales development in western and central Pennsylvania and West Virginia. Prior to joining Capital, Jon was a regional vice president at Voya Financial. Before that, he was an internal wholesaler at Transamerica Retirement Plan Solutions. He holds a bachelor’s degree in marketing from Indiana University. Jon is based in Los Angeles.

Max McQuiston is an advisory practice management consultant at Capital Group. He has 31 years of investment industry experience and has been with Capital Group for ten years. Earlier in his career at Capital, he was a wealth management consultant covering Utah and Southern Nevada. Prior to joining Capital, he worked as a senior vice president at Fidelity Investments. Before that, he was an advisor at Raymond James and a wholesaler at Hartford. He holds an MBA from Brigham Young University and a bachelor’s degree in economics from Weber State University. He also holds the Certified Investment Management Analyst®, Certified Financial Planner™ and Retirement Management Advisor® designations. Max is based in Kaysville, Utah.


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